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Symac 11 janvier 2015 à 14:30 (CET)
Is better that people have respect for others work and put his name !All the statistic is from Peter Mariën and Wikipedia do Copyright !
Bonjour
J'ai du mal à comprendre une de vos modifications sur cette liste effectuée le 15 avril 2015 à 15h18. Tous les joueurs listés sont repris du site BSDB (http://www.bsdb.be), la référence pour le footbal belge. Ils peuvent parfois se tromper sur le prénom pour des très anciens joueurs (certains se faisant plus souvent appeler par leur 2ème prénom que par leur 1er par exemple) mais ils oublient ou rajoutent rarement des joueurs.
Du coup, pourquoi avoir supprimé Jan Van Oeckel et Gommaar Van Oyen? Je n'ai pas annulé car vous semblez connaître un peu le sujet, pouvez-vous juste me donner la source disant que ces deux joueurs n'ont jamais joué au Lyra?
Cordialement, BelgoFoot (discuter) 16 avril 2015 à 08:58 (CEST)
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WWW.BSDB.BE do nothing else then stole information by others just like wikipedia doing.The only is after 1988 is his own work, shure not the things before the war. I am the historicus of Belgium Football and the players Van Oyen is not excist in inwriting by Lyra (i have the docu), and Van Oeckel is not playing, and look in 'gastenboek'by him my comments as Memories, the long list that he give is totaly wrong, only this players playing, and a lot of players have A WRONG FIRST NAME, this is realy terrible, because if i bring my books, how i gonna explain everything if sites takes wrong informations !!! I Dit as only in the world the research of first division from the begin and second from 1919, so i know very well what i say. ALSO A LOT OF CLASSEMENTS ARE WRONG (also in my site but i can not anymore in the site)!! This is the real list of Lyra 1919-1920 and look the different ! Ceulemans Louis + Ceulemans Willem + Crauwels Jozef + De Becker Adrièn + De Pooter Alfons + De Ridder Josephus + De Swert Emiel + Dom Franciscus + Embrechts Edgard + Goossens Alphonse + Goossens Denis Goossens Gommaar + Lens Louis + Nauwelaerts Gustaaf + Peeraer Isidoor + Rappoort Alfred + Schoeters Antonius + Sebrechts Alfons + Thijs Louis + Vanden Poel Leopold + Vanden Brande Frans Van De Velde Jacobus Verdonck Frans + Verlinden Gustaaf + Verlinden Josephus + Two Ceulemans with wrong name, Rappoort wrong name, Crauwels wrong name, forget Goossens Alphonse, forget Vanden Poel ect .... i am 15 years busy with research and the rest do only copyright WITH A LOT OF MISTAKES !!! I am realy sick of that kind of people that doing only that and give then comments to the original searcher ! The topscorerslist first division is from myself, stay only belgiumsoccerhistory but not Peter Mariën, i make soon the second division also topscorers list, but you can't find it somewhere else, how stuppid is this system that you can stole from another with a lot of mistakes but not can put your own work ???? Also in Dutch version a lot of mistakes, in example standing there before that van den Bosch en Van den Bosch are brothers by Anderlecht, realy wonderfull ....one is born in Brussels, the other comes from Boom FC, and look also to the first letter v and V !!
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Well, reading your talk page on WP(nl) I just realised that you have been already explained twice and very clearly that original research is prohibited on Wikipedia. You have also been requested several times to not make changes without reliable sources on your WP(en) talk page. Unless you have acceptable sources there is no reason to change the articles relating to Langenus, Pappaert or Nicolay (and, by the way, other ones too). You can of course claim that your are busy since twenty years with of researches about Belgian football players. However when I see which kind of arguments you have put forward in the discussion relating to Jean Nicolay (and not Nicolaÿ) I think I am fully entitled to express real doubts about the seriousness of you research work.
I furthermore noticed that you have reverted once more on the article John Langenus despite the warning that has bene put on the article page by another contributor. I draw your attention to the fact that you could be blocked for this.
Finally, knowing that you seem unable to contribute and write in French (and that your broken English in barely understanble as shown here) I wonder whether you should simply not refrain from contributing to WP(fr) (and, more generally spealing, to Wikipedia versions where you don't master the language). --Lebob (discuter) 1 février 2017 à 09:14 (CET)
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https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Pappaert is the prove, and i wrote not text in Frensh, so beginning not over something else, because the case is, that Nicolaÿ his birth certificate is with ÿ just like Guy Thys his birth certificate is with y but in National Register with ij as Thijs !!I put allready certificate from Langenus and Pappaert in Dutch version and you ore others can put many times for Langenus, that he is born in Berchem, the birth certificate say Antwerpen and also for Pappaert Sint-Gilis, but the birth certificate say Ukkel ;-) Everytime they come to ask for a proof if i put something, but people like Sonuwe take before all the players from playerhistory (not excist on the moment anymore) and from here http://users.skynet.be/fb304341/ but nobody ask something from where it comes, because he put before not a source.The system here to give a reaction is also difficult and it was better to go in discussion in another way, nobody is perfect!
- As a matter of fact Wikipedia is not a source for Wikipedia. And Facebook (which is the kingdom of fake news) is even less an acceptable source. Unless you can provide acceptable sources (and your personal researches are not acceptable sources) your changes will be reverted. --Lebob (discuter) 1 février 2017 à 10:18 (CET)
- A real birth certificate is always real, if i put it on facebook ore somewhere else, it's real.
I have not another way to put the birth certificate, have you a way that i can put tell me, because i want that the information is CORRECT and not wrong like many times here in wiki, because the most put players in, but don't know something over them, that's the different with me.BTW look the different JULES PAPPAERT in Dutch and Frensh. The carreer is totaly wrong that they put in Frensh.People take information from other sites, i have the information with research by the Football Association and newspapers, clubs, family, ex-players ect ...
- The only way to solve your issue is to stick to Wikipedia rules relating to reliable sources and to prohibition of personal searches. In case your information is not available trough reliable sources make a book of it get it published. --Lebob (discuter) 1 février 2017 à 19:09 (CET)
- Okay, and Sonuwe and co° they take information about my site, but put never from where they got it, that's also not really correct. Thanks anyway ;-)
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Avec un peu d'effort et de recherche, il y a toujours moyen... J'ai retrouvé l'article auquel vous faites référence sur KBR.BE et ai modifié l'article en conséquence en le sourçant. Pour info, il y a tout à fait moyen de sourcer une référence papier comme un article ou un livre, il convient simplement d'utiliser le bon modèle... Cdlt, --Garulfo71 2 octobre 2021 à 17:27 (CET)